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AKTiveSpace demo

pshab: demo works in mozilla not ie

C4: Semantic Web Applications

dajobe: Les Carr, Building a companinon website in the semantic web
dajobe: for hypermedia and the web book, next version
dajobe: overview of approaches, starting from the raw textbook text
dajobe: then you get to add a variety of hypertext additions, at your choice
dajobe: tours, gloassaries, cross-refrences, ewxternal links
dajobe: [slides seem to be hypertext, no link atm]
dajobe: resources for students, instructors
dajobe: =CWS sites=companion website
dajobe: a good CWS improves the book reader's levels of understanding
dajobe: techniques used to support the book
dajobe: 1 update the text. 2 integrate with linking
dajobe: 3 use hypertext to underly the book structure 4. exercises for readers/instructors
dajobe: problems - maintenace
dajobe: publisher support does bare bones, but not helping with info management
dajobe: want to deal with, record the impicit knowledge that he authors know about relationships between the content parts
dajobe: so... semweb tech, built an onotology
dajobe: using with some semweb agents that compute and reason over this cotnent
dajobe: goal is to produce something that looks like a textbook but a lot of flexibility
dajobe: tried to avoid things like browsing concept hierarchies, it's not book like
dajobe: start with key concepts ideas in the book
dajobe: tricky part was aexpressing the relationships
dajobe: and this is exactly the value that an author provides
dajobe: 100 domain concepts, 75 is-a arcs, 75 other types of relationships
dajobe: different kinds of content in the book - descs, picturs, summaries examples and also differnet types of reader
dajobe: took about 10% of book content (not doing it all just yet)
dajobe: also added contet from HyperBank textbook and some from WebML
dajobe: stored in AKT triplestore
dajobe: HyberBook agent app, talsk to services, below which talk via RDQL to AKT triplestore
dajobe: web services provided for concepts, tours, provider navigation, provider information
dajobe: result - a web page
dajobe: but contains areas from multiple services and structures
dajobe: presenter Les Carr
dajobe: future work - revision notes - bare bones views, asking about it from some topic
dajobe: --end--
dajobe: Q: why rdf, not xsd?
dajobe: A: this is a generic q, why an ontology?
dajobe: .. trying to codify things that would cross boundaries
dajobe: ... you could compile this down to a use of xsd
dajobe: ... but here we are trying to extend the inferential processing (with rdf, owl)
dajobe: ... looking forward to extensionability, keeps me with semweb rather than compile down to some xml
dajobe: ... instance.

some photos from the conference for annotation perhaps

libby: tuesday, wednesday, thursday -- by libby

Brownsauce RDF Browser

mattb-lap: by Damian Steer

ERH live blogging on WWW2004 May 19

Standardized Uniqueness: Standards as the Key to Personalized Learning (Session P8)

pshab: Panel Session
pshab: no presentations - eclectic collection of people on panel so should have an interesting set of conversations on improving the effectivness of learning...
pshab: room not so full as NY Ballroom... cool with lots of power points :)
pshab: querying audience/panel about areas of interest/foci etc.
pshab: Panel into - Daniel Rehak (CMU), Phillip Dodds (ADLI), Tyde Richards (IEEE, Erik Duval (ARIADNE+), Robert Farrell (IBM), Peter ?, Wayne Hodgins (IEEE, LTSC, Autodesk)
pshab: areas of interest - personalisation, where are bodies moving, intro to SCORM,... invites audiecne to be proactive
pshab: acronym check, IEEE, ADL, AICC (CBT committee), IMS, ARIADNE, ... (we do lots of acronyms...)
pshab: Erik can't remember what ARIADNE stands for... :)
pshab: also LOM...
pshab: question - surely joking personalisation & standards in one sentence - oil and water?
pshab: Tyde - what are you standardising, e.g. if whole course, then no not much personalise, but if small pieces of content ok... granulaity
pshab: [can't keep track of who is talking... and type :)]
pshab: standars for tracking and reporting - part of scorm, have to standardise
pshab: problem is - what does personalisation mean? depends on who talking to... from very specific to very broad
pshab: doing hard stuff now. generative, knowing what from history should know, knowing what rules are
pshab: not want to standardise learning but learning technologies - analogy with clothing industry, clothes sizing not the actual clothes
pshab: :) do have different clothing standards in the world even within the EU.
pshab: need critical mass...
pshab: myths to be dispelled?
pshab: ... ability of issues of what should be mandatory elements of LOM for specific applicaition domains.
pshab: at present there are no mandatory LOM elements
pshab: ... learning objects becomes useless [in medical learnign object] if not tagged properly e.g. for whom, topic, etc. very specific
pshab: from audience - looking at scrom web page dont' get it - panel inline comment, nor do we :)
pshab: is it for agents or humans or ?
pshab: it is about interoperability of systmes nto about who (or what) creates the content.
pshab: standards dont' care about where the knowlede comes from but describes it
pshab: history of computer based larnign, e.g. pre-web interactive, branching etc. kinda lost wen moved to web...
pshab: SCORM aimed to help overcome that flattening...
pshab: SCORM Standards
pshab: ... characterisation of Web being not interacive back then was accurate. Now things have changed with SMIL, etc...
pshab: SCORM focused on making things more learner focused, shift from trainer/Inst. Design view
pshab: question - project in Norway... joining parents/childrne/teachers... crisis in education... need to motivate puipls/teahers ...
pshab: ... Web is there now... but dissapointment. Web access is personalised by defulat(? I think)...
pshab: so challenge... what should be put in the classroom, used in teh curriculum... can work with EU, UNESCO...
pshab: seeme dto ve about waht the real impact is on educaion in practice?
pshab: answer... need resoures to support the National Curriuclum (NC) ... scorm helps there diliver the content to teachers to work they way they want to...
pshab: questioner in audience offers to pay for 50% of casestudy type thing!
pshab: answer... interest in competances wihin curriucum usign scorm infrastructure... meeting the learning needs...
pshab: Question - Scope of work - re:use cases?
pshab: ... focused on use cases to enable web based approaches to do what people wanted to do today...
pshab: ... what we have don't do many things we would like to e.g. modeling user knolwedge, etc.
pshab: But do we know what we need to know to do this or do we need to do mroe reserach - we need to do more reserach to do more generative type interactions
pshab: ... Content Object Repository Discovery and Resolution Architecture (CORDRA)
pshab: CORDRA:http
pshab: allows/facilitates discovery of LOs + somethignj I missed
pshab: from web site "enabling model to bridge the worlds of learning content management and delivery, and content repositories and digital libraries"
pshab: missing thing was resolution of objects
pshab: question... about history of standards and processes?
pshab: history franco/american from aviation industry... manafactures/airlines
pshab: needed to have many cources and log student records. But had multiple systems so non-interoperable and managing it was a problem
pshab: so.. needed to be able to put the pices together, and need object to communicate... SCORM took that model and draw out relevant specs from outside.
pshab: erik makes point that not big bias by american mil i.e. early needs orignaolly form french work
pshab: now fully internationalised... some features of internationalisation that cant' be represented in schemas - working on it
pshab: internationalisaton guy from W3C... interested in the schemas problems [come back to that]... but
pshab: is there a way of describign diffirent 'cultural bias' of content
pshab: need to balance needs for needs of specific countires, etc. and keepign it widely applicable
pshab: work to help people do the localisation themselves
pshab: bindings of LOM to XML and RDF... SCORM is a reference model
pshab: from audience (Vince Wade) is the based on whihc SCORM is based wrong?
pshab: Web is serivce oriented... granuality of LO is really small < screen size, so descibe them and move them around... becomes inractable
pshab: need a serivcde interface - discover me, control me... Not have the LOs on your platform
pshab: ... i.e. not need to move the objecgts around but dilived as services. - I think i correctly paraprhase
pshab: ... problme is with very fine grained and adaptive objects
pshab: .. erik - not sure why think doesn't scale?... documetns must die/elecronic forms must die...
pshab: vincent - lots of objects per min. for really rich interaction. the dilivery would be better as a service?
pshab: ... anser, still need to describe the objects... lots of input from differetn people...
pshab: fine grained ... not necessaryily... [missed hte end]
pshab: little workflow metadata as yet... people werent' really ready for it
pshab: to process 10,000s of service calls on rich systme. Is that scalable? using XML/SOAP
pshab: Question - LO what is one? + [missed first part]
pshab: very general defn. objects ... shift of topic...
pshab: back to service issue - adaptive conent (less static, docs must die related issues) beyond the current scorm...
pshab: different classes of adaptation - as get to individual objects adn adding adaptivity is outside of the scope of hte current standrds
pshab: note - re-use defn. means 'more use' cf. Repurposing i.e. for a new purpose better scale of benefits
pshab: question about community of users... who is the user... what is unique to learnign as opposed or e.g. publising of sciecen related content?
pshab: e.g. learnign managment systme intergration <-- content
pshab: and exchange of that...
pshab: structure of stuff is nto sepecific to learning... but some parts of data model e.g. score of quiz. are
pshab: was tyde, eric. very little specific to learning, pretty generic.
pshab: our focus is on learning compared to entertainment... need to make sure that spec and standars interoperate with external standrds e.g. DC etc.
pshab: now need a consoludation phase ... bring standards togetehr - stack on which others e.g. learnign/entertainment could be built
pshab: question - SCROM only deals with some classes of learning.
pshab: defn. is subjecgtive learning= training, eduction, ?
pshab: question MIT open courseware (OCW) - where is SCORM in that? costs of implimentation of SCORM
pshab: actually OCW moslty pages of content?
pshab: OCW
pshab: SCORM does not fit all applications...
pshab: costs... change as tools devleop - usrs/tutors don't need/shouldn't see the SCORM any more that they see raw HTML
pshab: intergration of diverse conetn form diffrent providers is Much reduced as the standards are implimented.
pshab: missed next Q: but answers about intergration with other systems and interoperation
pshab: ok Q: someting about does scorm do collaboration in learning
pshab: out of time... guy who offered the 50% funding eariler is asking... why not focus on say, chemistry...
pshab: ... can we ... will follow on later
pshab: session ends

Semantic Web, Phase 2: Developments and Deployment by Eric Miller, W3C

libby: including advanced development, swad-e: thesuarus, sem blogging, calendaring
libby: future work - app-speciifc - see similie - devday
DanC: full room here in New York ballroom B
libby: don't forget to corner Dan Connolly and buy him a deli sandwich for info on DAWG
DanC: or some fruit. I got an awesome orange at a street vendor this morning. I already went nutso on NY pizza and deli food, thanks.
libby: BP wg - focus on deployment
libby: among other thiings, transforming some high-visible ontologies/vocabs to rdf
libby: semantic web homepage; semamtic web interest group (friendly :) - good places to start to get involved
libby: chuck Myers - adobe - experience of deployment of Semantic web
libby: all latest adobe products have rdf in them
libby: i.e XMP
libby: wanted easy to create metadata, consistent with using multiple vocabularies
libby: various vocabs supported: incl dublin core, exif...
DanC: dublin core, XMP, rights mgmt, media mgmt, job ticket mgmt, [darn; next slide]
DanC: presentation materials: Chuck Meyers, Adobe (PDF)
libby: next: Frank Careccia - Brandsoft
libby: website is often structured according to company organisation not how you do business
libby: documentation of content that ships with the product as a 'model'
libby: reducing confusion and duplication by automatically-discovered metadata about the creator, workflow, etc
karlcow: It reminds me a question, I had after the QA Talk yesterday. How do you keep your URI alive with a 10 years web site (W3C) and 875,000 Web pages. I replied do not confuse your URI space with the structure of your Web site.
libby: Dennis Quan IBM, bio-haystack
libby: many different public databases full of biological obejcts of interest - oroteins, genes etc, all with own protocols data formats etc
libby: life sciences identifiers (LSID) urns - rdf behind them
libby: naming system and also protocol - OMG sponsored; SOAP-based
areggiori: LSID specifications
libby: enabling non-programmers to use and manipulate this kind of information
libby: biological semnatic web using haystack
FransW: Haystack Home
libby: cool graph interface, drag and drop
libby: collaboration with mygrid (e-science, uk, Manchester, lots of usecases); also creator of LSID/RDF metadata from experiments by the user. using haystack to look at the results
libby: provenance of the experimental data is important - can view the web of provenance using haystack
libby: Jeff Pollock - Network Inference: business case, who description logics are important to customers
libby: SW tech as 'painkillers' for business problems today: lowerign oprational costs, info repurposing; adaptive business capabilities such as inferening, classification; automation of busines activities
libby: metadta prevalent in the business community already
libby: using tools on top of interoperable metadata
libby: business logic - putting it in OWl instead of in java
libby: semnatic data integration - a unified semnatic view of existing data - common query interface for it, non-proprietory way
libby: semantic web services - future use case, no users yet; think will be crucial...grid...
libby: customer: how does the company cope with classification of weirdo devices taht don;t fit neatly into categories, e.g. tivo, camera phones, for reporting sales
libby: autoclassification (using owl somehow(?))
libby: something that uses Xquery
areggiori: federated query using XQuery
libby: heathcare startup - matching care options to customers
libby: customers committed to owl DL rather than other vraiants, because: consistency....soem other stuff
libby: Dave Reynolds, HPL, braod overview of HP efforts to support the SWeb
libby: HP Labs role is to create opportunities for the company, nurture, reduce risk, move it along
libby: SW good fit for HP: broad application, open standards; but risk: network effoect technology
libby: so ...getting the network excited to start with, working with whole community, helping create standards, greater interop, standards very important, HP played large role
libby: also to kickstart needs cheap and easy tools to use. HPs tools: jena (java) rdf toolkit; companion joseki, rdf server
libby: also helping along applications such as damian steer's brownsauce browser :)
libby: Jena has a BSD license - anyone can pick it up, use it, even commercial, don;t need to tell us about it
libby: downside, we dont know who is using it, but we know a lot of people do. lots of apps using it
libby: joseki also very popular, input to DAWG group via W3C submission with ontopia
areggiori: RDF is "horizontal"
libby: no one SW killer app- explore broad range of options
libby: SWAD-E project: application for semantic blogging; also information aggregaion - information portals (see poster)
libby: SIMILE - digital library metadata; also content management
libby: knowledge managemnt and data integration (product catalogues, database integration, connections to KM - the latter an eyeopener, queries accross all that data)
libby: also Semantic web and web services - another EU project SWWS, supply-chain management - integration accrooss enterprises rather than within, hence importamce of open stds
libby: Q: have any of the panelests worked together to create interoperable
libby: network inference have used Jena; Dennis: similie is HP/W3C...uses haystack; eric...missed a bit sorry. symbiotic
libby: Q:relationship to EBXML possibly?
libby: daveR: one of the things on the landscape that need to be integrated together
libby: Q: handling data form such an open world?
libby: DaveR - default is to handle any data; might show some better. Dennis: ditto haystack, see saturday for presentation technology...? for query - you ahve to know what to ask for to ask queries; want to be able to get back unanticipated results
libby: Q:what was the key thing that m,ade the sweb interesting to their customers?
libby: chuck...file browsing..(?), dennis: standardisation of names, assembling fragments of information reduces effort
libby: ericm: add questions to the box for answering at the townhall

a9 search without personalisation and history

As We May Think: Vannevar Bush

A9 Search Engine

edd: fonts too small and screen too low contrast for me

Another clip shown in keynote

FransW: Videoclip "The proud worker" from 3dfx inc.

Smart Personal Object Technology (SPOT)

wallop

mattb: a research project of the Social Computing Group at Microsoft Research, exploring how people share media and build conversations in the context of social networks
pshab: there dont' seem to be externally visable demos or even screen dumps?
FransW: They have more info at the Social Computing Group webpage

World-Wide Media eXchange

mattb: ms research project
pshab: just looking at the MS WWME demo - looks cool there is a downloadalbe app
MarkB: looks like w3photo got slashdotted

SkyServer

Digital Convergence

mattb: 'humorous' video made for Bill Gates in 1994
mattb: used in Rick Rashid's keynote
   
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